I do a daily tour of a silly number of blogs - some Red Sox, at least one for every other team in the majors (blogs really are a great way to find out what fans of other teams are thinking, particularly interesting when they are playing your team) and some general blogs that do a great job of giving an overall perspective of the game.
I read this
story in the paper version of the NY Times this morning (I think the link may require you to fill in a free registration), and then saw a link
here to a different take on the story
here. Which got me thinking...
Clearly the interpretation of the numbers is subjective, and as any opponent or supporter of a statistical approach to baseball will tell you, numbers can tell you anything...
I thought I would take a look at the Sox and Yankees road draws within the American League - the interleague splits are heavily influenced by the fact that the Yankees play three road games in New York every season. My way of looking at the numbers was to look at each teams home average in all games except those for games against the Sox (looking at Sox numbers) , and all games except those against the Yankees (looking at the Yankee numbers). I then looked at the difference between these two numbers and you end up with the following tables...
| Average ex. BOS | Average v. BOS | Difference | % |
Baltimore | 31,862 | 45,437 | 13,574 | 43% |
Chicago WS | 27,309 | 37,718 | 10,409 | 38% |
Cleveland | 22,930 | 29,642 | 6,713 | 29% |
Detroit | 25,894 | 21,196 | -4,698 | -18% |
Kansas City | 18,802 |
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LA Angels | 41,931 |
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Minnesota | 25,533 |
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NY Yankees | 48,528 | 54,336 | 5,808 | 12% |
Oakland | 24,099 | 34,160 | 10,061 | 42% |
Seattle | 33,136 | 45,636 | 12,500 | 38% |
Tampa Bay | 12,314 | 26,941 | 14,627 | 119% |
Texas | 31,683 | 42,700 | 11,017 | 35% |
Toronto | 22,123 | 30,988 | 8,864 | 40% |
Total | 27,934 | 37,582 | 9,649 | 35% |
So what stands out here? Well the good folks of Detroit sure don't like the Sox... or it could just be that it was a week-day series, and that the Tampa Bay Devil Rays should be campaigning for an even more 'unbalanced' schedule than we have at the moment.
| Average ex. NYY | Average v NYY | Difference | % |
Baltimore | 31,921 | 47,562 | 15,640 | 49% |
Boston | 35,206 | 34,840 | -367 | -1% |
Chicago WS | 28,066 |
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Cleveland | 22,512 | 36,747 | 14,235 | 63% |
Detroit | 24,605 | 40,680 | 16,074 | 65% |
Kansas City | 18,477 | 24,101 | 5,624 | 30% |
LA Angels | 41,765 | 44,055 | 2,290 | 5% |
Minnesota | 24,614 | 41,463 | 16,849 | 68% |
Oakland | 23,808 | 39,018 | 15,210 | 64% |
Seattle | 33,659 | 36,927 | 3,269 | 10% |
Tampa Bay | 13,773 | 15,289 | 1,516 | 11% |
Texas | 32,145 | 45,700 | 13,555 | 42% |
Toronto | 23,152 | 23,008 | -144 | -1% |
Total | 27,055 | 36,255 | 9,201 | 34% |
So if the good folks of Detroit don't like the Sox, they sure as heck do like the Yankees! The small dip in the Red Sox / Yankee numbers at Fenway is down to a low number on the Sox opening day - my guess is that this is simply the combination of the limitations of Fenway in day games (fact) and the additional press compliment in RF at the opening day game (guess - but this had an effect on capacity for the WS games at Fenway, so at least it is a slightly educated guess!).
So in looking at the two tables, the Sox are the massive, run-away on the road draw... well no, there are 400 ticket buyers in it, which without getting in to it, could be something as simple as a weekend series in a good town.
So now that I have produced a table that shows this outcome, simply add in the Mets and the Yankees are again the clear runaway winner - the Mets regular average (for games excluding the Yankees) is 33,000+ (approximately, I have stupidly deleted the base data that I used for teams that I didn't include in the final table), rising to 55,000+ for the three game series against the Yankees.
I guess my conclusion is... fans of other teams may be tired of 24/7 coverage of the Yanks and Sox and the "Greatest Rivalry in All of Sports" (TM. ESPN), but it doesn't stop them (and members of Red Sox Nation and Yankeeland) turning up in big numbers to watch them when they are in town.
(Season numbers were taken from ESPN.com, individual game numbers from Box Scores on MLB.com)